Agenda and minutes

Licensed Transport Forum
Tuesday, 20 June 2017 10:00 am

Venue: Room 16/17 Eastleigh House, Upper Market Street, Eastleigh SO50 9YN

Contact: Cheryll Kemsley, Democratic Services Officer tel: 02380688112; email: 

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Minutes pdf icon PDF 99 KB

To consider the Minutes of meeting held on 24 January 2017.


That the minutes of the meeting held on 18 September 2016 be agreed as a correct record.


Action List pdf icon PDF 192 KB


The Action List was considered and updates were provided.


AL said that he hoped the stewarding at the Ageas Bowl would improve for the cricket event the following day, as stewarding at the last event had been appalling. This was due to the fact that it was contracted-out to a company that appeared to have little or no experience of marshalling. PB advised that there was a Road Traffic Management Plan in place but because it was contracted-out the message gets lost. He appreciated the frustration from the Trade and he and his team would be going early to the Ageas Bowl to brief the stewards. They were doing all they could.


Procedure Costs of Transferring Plates to a New Vehicle (update from last meeting)


PB advised that he and his team had taken on board the Trade’s comments regarding transferring of plates and one visit to the offices. They were endeavouring to do this but the Trade was advised that the fees would still remain the same but the processes, which would not change but would become more efficient.


Vehicle Testing Update from Working Group


PN reported that he had sent an email to the working group with the final version of amendments from the previous two workshop meetings. If everyone was happy he would send a letter to the operators advising where they can access the form and give feedback to the reps within a month so that the form was up and running by the end of July 2017.


SL advised that Section 6 was still a little contentious and there were a couple of minor issues which they would pick up after the meeting. AL added that any subjectivity must be complete removed before it was launched.


Taxi Plates and Display of Licences (PB)


Taxi plates - PB reported that the team was in the middle of a procurement process at present. Once a supplier was appointed there would be a phased handover of old plates to new over a year.


Display of Licenses – PB reported that the enforcement team had noticed that a number of drivers were not displaying their badges which they must do. There was discussion around the lanyards potentially being a health and safety issue. PB said he would look into different methods for wearing the badges.

Actions: PB


Implications of licensed HC drivers working on UBER system (SC)


SC had received concerns from some Eastleigh HC drivers who believed that a couple of drivers were on the UBER system. PB advised that he had spoken to UBER to say that HC drivers can never pick up in a borough in which they are not licensed but they may drop off.


SL added that there had been five Bournemouth Cabs on the Eastleigh rank recently, refusing to move until they received jobs from train passengers. PB was to take the information and contact Bournemouth Borough Council.

Actions: PB


BTec and Blue Lamp Courses (RV)


RV queried why drivers had to the Btec course where other councils just required new drivers to attend the Blue Lamp course which is only six hours. Drivers had not been impressed how the Btec courses in Brockenhurst were run. PB responded that he would have a look at the Blue Lamp course, potentially for school run drivers only, and report back at the next meeting.

Actions: PB


New Drivers Knowledge Test (RV)


RV requested that new drivers be allowed to take and pay for the knowledge test rather than have the full cost of a drivers licence application. This was because new drivers were put off applying because if they failed the knowledge test it was a lot of money to lose. PB advised that happy to take this on board and they were unofficially doing it anyway.


12 Year Old Cars (RV)


RV stated that the age of vehicles was voted on back in 2013. The response was 51% against change; the main reason being the financial cost involved. To alleviate this, the Council had proposed to introduce the policy over a number of years. New vehicles could only be registered up to seven years old and then used to twelve years old. He asked why the Trade could not register cars up to 12 years old as it was their decision if they only want to use the car for a couple of years and the money it saved could buy an older car. 


It was explained that the Council and Trade had taken a long time and a lot of work to reach an agreement over the Age Policy that was brought it to ensure the fleet was smart and safe for public use. It did not please everyone however, but the majority were happy with it.


DBS update (KM)


DBS Update Services – KM reiterated that people must retain their original DBS Certificate from when they first applied as it was not renewed annually. The wording was on the DBS website but a job to find. He said that HCC had accepted ID without the certificate and asked why Eastleigh and Southampton did not. PB said he would look into it.

Actions: PB


Driving Tests in Automatic Cars (KM)


KM asked why drivers with manual licences took their driving tests in automatic cars, when it should be manual cars. PB said he would look into it.

Actions: PB


Disabled Toilets not being Locked


On behalf of Teresa Swann, Eastleigh BID Manager, PN reported that the disabled toilets were being left unlocked and people were leaving drug paraphernalia including used needles in the sink. This was very concerning, especially when blind people use the facilities.  PN asked that reps remind the Trade to ensure the toilet is left locked after use.


Actions: Trade


Number of Accessible Taxis in Eastleigh


PB advised that a report would be going to the Administration Committee on Monday 26 June 2017 regarding the Equality Act 2010, where sections 165 and 167 had come into effect on 6 April 2017, and, if approved, the Council would publish a list of wheelchair accessible vehicles.


List of Wheelchair Accessible Taxi Page on EBC Website


This would be updated following the outcome of the Administration Committee on 26 June 2017.




Electric Charge Points on the Rank - AL asked if there would be any provision to provide a charge point for electric vehicles on the rank. The Chair replied that there were no immediate plans but it could potentially happen.


Southampton Clean Air Zone – SL reported that Southampton was the City to bring in the first clean air zone in April 2019 and asked how this would affect the Trade. The Chair suggested that this be an item on the next agenda.

Actions: CK