Agenda and minutes

Airport Consultative Committee - Tuesday, 8 October 2013 2:00 pm

Venue: Southampton International Airport

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Minutes of meeting Tuesday, 11 June 2013 pdf icon PDF 37 KB

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Phil Dominey of South West Trains confirmed the new rail/air tickets were also available for passengers with reduced mobility.


Jan Halliday advised the whole of the Southampton Airport website was being re-designed and queries regarding the readability of certain pages would be addressed.




That the minutes of the meeting of 11 June 2013 be confirmed and signed as a true record of the meeting. 



Information from the Chairman


Godfrey Olson advised that he had been informed that Lucy Luland was unwell and had resigned from the Committee.  She had asked Winchester Trades Council to appoint a replacement for her.  The Committee agreed a letter should be sent to Mrs Luland giving their good wishes. 


Airport Managing Director's Report pdf icon PDF 887 KB

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In the absence of David Lees, who was attending a meeting of Ferrovial in Madrid, Jan Halliday presented the Managing Director’s report previously circulated with the agenda. 


Addressing the growth in passenger figures, up by 7%, Mrs Halliday said August had been the busiest month since 2007.  The additional daily  flight to Amsterdam provided even more worldwide connections  from Southampton Airport.


The Andorra route by Inghams and Neilson tour operators would fly to Llieda Airport from where the transfer to Andorra takes only 1.5 hours.


In addition to the report Mrs Halliday spoke about the Music in the Air project which provided Friday evening concerts at the Airport from 5pm.  The Eukalele Jam were the first to participate on 27 September , followed by the Electric String Duet on the 4 October.  This week on 11 October the Southampton Swing Band would be performing in front of the Mayors of Eastleigh and Southampton.  Committee members were invited to join them.


On being asked about increased helicopter flights, Mike Glenn advised that there were more movements of the Police helicopter and the Air Ambulance was seen more regularly since the helipad at Southampton General Hospital had provided a trauma centre for such cases.  It was agreed that figures would be brought to future meetings.


Guildford meeting of SASIG and the Mayor of London - Davd Airey


Councillor David Airey attended a meeting in Guildford in July which considered the proposals regarding the future location of airports around London, together with extra runways etc.  Proposals considered included inner and outer estuary proposals, and changes to Stanstead put forward by the Mayor of London.  The meeting had been restricted to the promotion of the Mayor’s proposals, although several representatives at the meeting were keen to think about a wider range of ideas.


South East of England Councils meeting - David Airey


Councillor Airey also attended a meeting of the South East England Councils where they were looking at strategic commonalities between areas,  common themes which local authorities could support.  Infrastructure and connectivity were seen as the key number one issues, where airports might be involved where the obvious emphasis had always been seen primarily as Heathrow.


Airspace Change Proposal - presentation by Iain McDermott Paine and Mike Glenn, Southampton Airport pdf icon PDF 167 KB


Iain McDermott-Paine introduced the item explaining the initiative was primarily regarding new approaches for aircraft from the South and the move toward GNSS approach where satellite navigation was used.  This was seen as a fairly minor change but nevertheless necessitated a consultation process.


The reason for the change was explained as a navigational aid known as a VOR (VHF Omnidirectional Range) would be de-commissioned in 2016 in a move toward satellite technology. The new system would provide more opportunities for aircraft to be configured to land more efficiently as they approach the airport from the South. This falls in line with FAS – Future Airspace Strategy. 


The change was not about, routing heights, night flights, operational hours, types of aircraft, approaches from the North, runway/air capacity, noise routings, controlled airspace or Section 106 agreements. 


Mike Glen explained that the noise statistics to August this year were significantly reduced from 1548 in 2006, to the current number of 64.  Aircraft movements had also decreased from the 2006 level of 55789 to the 2013 level of 27524.


Turning to Aircraft operations and approach Mr Glen showed the committee maps with routings shown, given that aircraft always take off and land into the prevailing wind.


There are currently two types of approach: visual where the pilot uses his/her eyes, and makes manual adjustments to the flight routing, for this approach visibility must be good and conditions perfect. 


The second approach was an instrument approach used when there is low cloud, mist or rain.  This system relies on navigational aids positioned on the Airport. This approach may be used in all conditions and relies on: (1). The glide slope which emits a signal on a gradient of 3? which controls aircraft descent; (2). A Localiser which aligns the aircraft with the centre line of the runway; and (3). Distance Measuring Equipment (DME) measures the distance from the airport.


Currently the visual approach takes a straight line from Southampton Water at 4 nautical miles out.  The VOR approach to the runway is offset and the aircraft becomes fully aligned at approximately 2 nautical miles from the airport.  However the VOR system is being decommissioned. 


NDB (Non Directional Beacon) is very old technology and emits a signal which the aircraft flies towards.


GNSS is a line over the ground and gives a straight approach from 9.1 nautical miles out (a point beyond Beaulieu to the South) and gives a constant approach with no turns This is expected to provide benefits in terms of a reduction in noise and emissions. This is less invasive and works in a similar way to a sat nav in a car but in a 3d form, giving height as well.


From 2016 GNSS and NDB and visual approach will be able to be used. 

The height of the aircraft using GNSS would be 2500 feet at a distance of 9.1 nautical miles, then at a non-specific point on the same trajectory it would be at a height of 1860 feet, by Dibden Purlieu the height would be at 1700 feet.  At the Itchen Bridge in Southampton the height would be 902 feet and at 1 nautical mile out 400 feet then touch down. This approach will maintain the internationally recognised approach angle of 3 degrees meaning there will be no change in aircraft heights.


A question was raised why the 3? approach had to be used, when London City Airport uses a 5? approach.  It was explained that only aircraft with the correct regulatory approvals and technology can use a 5?approach and these were not currently in use at Southampton.  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.


Noise Action Plan


Patrick Collins advised the Committee that we were in the third year of the Noise Action Plan.  There was currently nothing significant to report and although it had been hoped to bring noise contours to the meeting these were still ongoing and a report would be taken to the Technical Working Group in January and then to the February meeting of the Consultative Committee.


Monitoring of the Flying Controls Agreement - Tony Wright, Eastleigh Borough Council

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Consideration was given to a report by Tony Wright which summarised the statistics of operational activity at Southampton Airport for the May to August  period of 2013 provided by Southampton Airport in accordance with the Flying Controls Agreement between the owners of the Airport and the Borough Council.  The report also compared the figures with those for the previous year. 


Turning to the earlier query regarding increased helicopter movements Mr Wright explained that although movements were up they were nowhere near the level that the Flying Controls Agreement would permit.  Aso night flights were well within permitted numbers.


The report was noted.



Technical Working Group feedback pdf icon PDF 142 KB


Iain McDermot Paine presented the previous TWG minutes previously circulated with the agenda.  He mentioned that although currently the Trislander Aircraft was exempt from noise performance routings, there had been some increase in the numbers of complaints and they were to look at the preferred noise routings again and revalidate the need for the exemption with Aurigny. 


The Aviation Policy Framework would be a regular agenda item at the TWG.  Robin Tice applauded the efforts to save fuel but questioned the savings of aircraft taxiing on one engine and questioned health and safety in this regard.  He also thought there was considerable cost and wastage by flying the loop over Winchester. 


Mr McDermott Paine advised that the one engine taxiing was used network wide and was a decision by airports but by the airlines.   


Date and time of next meeting

11 February 2014 – venue to be advised.


The next meeting would be held on 11 February 2014 at the Civic Offices, Leigh Road, Eastleigh.