Agenda and minutes

Airport Consultative Committee - Tuesday, 11 February 2014 2:00 pm

Venue: Civic Offices, Leigh Road, Eastleigh SO50 9YN

Contact: Karin James, Democratic Services Officer (Tel: 023 8068 8113; Email: 

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Minutes of meeting Tuesday, 8 October 2013 of Airport Consultative Committee pdf icon PDF 330 KB




That the minutes of the meeting of 8 October 2013 be confirmed and signed as a true record of the meeting.


Airport Managing Director's Report pdf icon PDF 2 MB

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David Lees, Airport Managing Director, presented his report wh9ich had previously been circulated with the agenda. 


Questions were asked regarding the additional Flybe routes to and from Birmingham versus the loss of routes from Southampton to Germany particularly as this is such useful link to a major economy, for business, tourism and links to our armed forces in Germany.


Mr Lees explained that the economy around the Birmingham area was growing and links to Cologne were especially valued.  Currently there were insufficient passenger numbers for Southampton to German airports but it was hoped it would be possible to re-secure these specific reference was given to routes to Munich, Hamburg and Frankfurt. 


Mr Lees was congratulated on the improved noise statistics which appeared to be a continuing trend. 


Mention was made of the adverse effect of APD (Air Passenger Duty) on European routes, and recent comments made by Mr Jim French, Chairman of Flybe which had reiterated the problem.  Mr Lees agreed the European market was hugely competitive however it had been made clear that the Chancellor of the Exchequer was not keen to reverse the Government’s position on APD.  When considered whether the National Association of Airport Consultative Committees might lobby for a reduction the Committee were assured this had already been done, and perhaps the next step should be to lobby Members of Parliament.  It was noted the local MPs always gave their apologies for the Committee’s meetings and the suggestion was made that if a future meeting could be held on a Friday there may be more likelihood of them attending.  Consideration was to be given to changing the June 2014 meeting to be held on Friday 13 June and inviting the MPs who might find it easier to attend on that day.


The Sir Howard Davies Commission Interim Report - Dave Lees


David Lees explained that Sir Howard Davis had been appointed in 2012 to lead an independent Airports Commission – ‘A fresh and independent look at the UK ‘s future airport capacity needs’.  The Commission had received 52 proposals and an interim report was published in December 2013, with a final report to be published in the Summer 2015.


Changes since the previous commissions on aviation included: the emergence of new business models – Low cost; London Airports all in separate private ownership; and Heathrow full, Gatwick operating at 85% of capacity.


The key outcomes were: Commission reforecast passenger traffic; Minimal scope to redistribute traffic; Short term improvements required - CDM, airspace changes & performance based navigation, surface access improvements to Airports; and a new runway infrastructure required in London & South East by 2030.


Various options were being considered.


Heathrow Option 1 – Heathrow Airport

A new 3,500m runway constructed to the North West of the existing Airport, operational by 2026 at a cost of £17bn with a  capacity of 130m.  There was to be a public consultation in Spring 2014.


Heathrow Option 2 – Heathrow Hub Ltd

An extension to the Northern runway to the West to 6,000m to enable it to be operated as 2 runways, lower land take and no greater noise footprint with a cost of £7.5bn (2 runways).


Gatwick Airport option

A new runway to the South of the existing runway, lower noise impact compared to LHR Cost £5-7bn.  There was to be a public consultation in Spring 2014.


Thames Estuary Airport – Not shortlisted (additional analysis to be undertaken)

New Airport proceeding with this would require closure of Heathrow, London City and Southend airports.  Substantial surface access infrastructure required in an area where there is a protected habitat and flood risk.  Cost £112bn.  Daniel Moylan – Transport advisor to Mayor of London was quoted as saying ‘London needs an airport and location that is aligned with forecast population growth’.


In terms of any change to Southampton Airport the only implication is the possible extension of the runway to include a starter strip to optimise European focus.  In answering questions regarding the starter strip Mr Lees advised this would increase the length of the runway by less than 10% and would optimise the type of aircraft already used.  When asked about the timescale and whether it would be possible to include a taxiway to the end of the runway Mr Lees advised this would be decided according to business need but it would seem optimal to address both needs at the same time.


Noise Action Plan pdf icon PDF 1 MB

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Patrick Collins advised new information would be supplied and distributed to members with the minutes of this meeting. There would not be a new system before 2015 and currently evaluation of quiet areas was being undertaken. 


There had been a request from DEFRA to update the current plan which runs from 2010 to 2015 and to extend this to run from 2013 to 2018, as the current plan was not very old it was considered only minor modifications would be required and submitted to DEFRA in mid-March.  The draft proposal would be forwarded with these minutes and would require any response from members by 28 February 2014. 


The minutes of the previous meeting had promised members that the latest noise contours would be available at this meeting and these too would be forwarded with the minutes of this meeting. 


The London Link and Channel Islands Campaign - presentation by Vicky Parkes, Airport Marketing Manager


Vicky Parkes, Marketing Manager at the Airport, gave a presentation on a recent marketing campaign undertaken by the Airport together with Flybe and Blue Islands with SWT (£30 return to London Waterloo) which would provide links which were particularly beneficial for the Channel Islands. Peppa Pig had also been instrumental in the campaign,  with Peppa Pig World at Paultons (an extremely popular local tourist attraction) being very accessible from Southampton Airport.  Other local tourist attractions identified were the Ageas Bowl, Tudor House , Southampton Art Gallery SeaCity, and Beaulieu.

Various roadshows were taking place: Wednesday 15th January – Jersey Road Show; Thursday 16th January – Guernsey Road Show; Media, Travel trade and the Public; and an advertising campaign in Channel Islands media (October – Feb).


Representatives of these parties had undertaken a flight from the Channel Islands to both Gatwick and Southampton Airports and it had been found that the times taken were similar but a trip to Southampton including the rail fare had worked out £40 cheaper with a lot less hassle – 99 steps between Airport and train.


Efforts were to continue with meetings with cruise companies and general promotion of links. 


Monitoring of the Flying Controls Agreement pdf icon PDF 25 KB

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Consideration was given to a report of the Head of Regeneration and Planning Policy which summarised the statistics of operational activity at Southampton Airport for the September to December period of 2013 provided by Southampton Airport in accordance with the Flying Controls Agreement between the owners of the airport and the Borough Council. The report also compares the figures with those for the previous year.


It was resolved that the report be noted.


Guidelines for Airport Consultative Committees - verbal update Richard Ward, Hon Secretary


Richard Ward gave a presentation on the recent draft ACC Guidelines issued by the Department for Transport.  Five key issues were identified: Transparency  - Committees should be as open and transparent as possible regarding the issues discussed and the conclusions reached; Representative - All those significantly affected by or involved in the operation of the aerodrome should have access to a representative who can speak on their behalf; Independent It was seen as important that the committees are, and perceived to be, independent from the airport in order to maintain the confidence of all interested parties; Constructive -  The committee should take a constructive role in issues, taking the opportunity to influence matters where appropriate; and Knowledgeable - Members need not be experts on every subject the committee discusses, but they should have a general understanding of the issues involved, whilst having a more in depth understanding of the area they are representing.


The sharing of good practice and information between consultative committees was strongly encouraged. Committees should determine how this was managed in practice. For committees at larger airports, the Liaison Group of UK ACCs is an ideal way to do this. At smaller aerodromes sharing best practices on an informal ad hoc basis may be more appropriate. Southampton Consultative Committee had links with Farnborough Consultative Committee.


Public access to meetings of the committee may be open to the press and the public at the discretion of the committee. A balance of transparency and confidentiality can be achieved by holding more sensitive meetings in private. This is already the case with this Committee.


The aerodrome should have an agreed formal procedure for recording complaints about aircraftnoise and other impacts of the aerodrome on the environment. Once again this is already in practice at Southampton Airport.


In terms of whether SIACCS considered  a Code of Conduct was necessary, it was felt that many members were already subject to a Code of Conduct as a Councillor and that the professional attitude was already clearly being demonstrated.


Members were shown a copy of the proposed response by the UKACCS and it was agreed copies of the Draft Paper would be emailed to members after the meeting.  Members were requested to send any further comments to Richard Ward by Thursday afternoon 13 February as the response letter was being forwarded by UKACCS on Friday 14 February.


Technical Working Group feedback pdf icon PDF 221 KB

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Mike Glenn presented the minutes of the last Technical Working Group (attached to these minutes).  Previous questions regarding the Trislander and its possible replacement were addressed.  The Dornier 228 an eighteen seater turbo prop aircraft had been ordered as the Trislander’s replacement and would be expected to adhere to the preferred routes.


Fuel savings from aircraft taxiing on one engine as opposed to two had not yet been assessed and may be seen as commercially sensitive but as and when figures were available they would be provided to the Committee.


With regard to proposed air space changes, The consultation closed on 31 January 2014.  An overview of the consultation took place in the press, on radio and television, aviation websites, in various parishes throughout the New Forest, at drop in sessions at the Airport and 130 Stakeholders had been consulted culminating in 20/25 responses.  The Committee requested to be shown a copy of the report once finalised and available.


The Committee noted the minutes.


Date and time of next meeting

10 June 2014 venue to be advised.


The date and time of the next meeting was likely to be Friday 13 June at the Airport.  Members would be advised of this change of date once arrangements had been finalised.