Agenda and minutes

Airport Consultative Committee - Friday, 27 June 2014 2:00 pm

Venue: Southampton International Airport meeting room

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No. Item


Election of Chair for 2014/15




That Godfrey Olson be elected as Chairman of the Committee  for 2014-2015.



Election of Vice Chair for 2014/15




That David Airey be elected as Vice Chairman of the Committee  for 2014-2015.



Appointment of Honorary Secretary 2014/15




That Richard Ward be appointed as Hon Secretary of the Committee  for 2014-2015.



Mary Finch


The Chair made the sad announcement of the recent death of Mary Finch who had served on the Committee for over twenty years, making a very valuable contribution to the business of the Committee. 


Members requested a letter of condolence should be sent to both the Bitterne Park Residents Association and her family.


All those present stood in silence for one minute as a mark of respect to Mrs Finch.


New Airport Consultative Committee Guidelines - Richard Ward pdf icon PDF 282 KB


Members requested Agenda item 15 be taken as item 4.


Richard Ward gave a verbal update on the new DfT Guidelines for Airport Consultative Committees previously circulated with the agenda. He highlighted that these were merely guidelines, and Airport Consultative Committees come in all types and sizes.  Generally it appeared that the Southampton Airport Consultative Committee adhered to the suggested guidelines.  It had been proposed that a new code of conduct should be adopted by consultative committees to help members understand their role and account for their actions, and Mr Ward proposed he should bring a suggested draft of such a code to the next meeting. He also suggested a member induction pack might be given to new members.  Both suggestions were accepted by members. 


Another suggestion was that Committees should involve themselves more in consumer complaints to airports. Page 41 of the DfT document gave ideas of specific items which Consultative Committees might wish to discuss.  This included updates from airport management, noise and track keeping, updates from local authorities on local plans that might impact on the airport, community noise and local air quality monitoring, passenger service issues, noise insulation schemes, surface access, airport developments, airspace changes, noise action plans, responding to consultations, community initiatives, updates from sub groups.  Many of these items were already regular items on the agenda at Southampton Airport Consultative Committee. 


A question was posed as to why the Mansbridge Residents Association did not have representation on the Committee.  Mr Ward advised they had never requested such representation but all representatons received were given consideration and should be addressed to him.


(at this point Mike Thornton MP was welcomed to the meeting).


Airport Managing Director's Report pdf icon PDF 421 KB

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David Lees presented his report previously circulated with the agenda. 


Members congratulated Mr Lees on his appointment to the Local Economic Partnership (LEP) and thanked him for a very positive report.  They expressed their congratulations to the staff highlighted in the report. 


Turning to the new routes members were pleased to note the new route to Hamburg and asked how this was to be publicised.  Also in view of recent reductions by Flybe members asked if new airlines could be approached to give routes to other possible venues such as Venice, Cork and Copenhagen. 


Jan Halliday advised the biggest growth was in routes to Guernsey which now more popular than routes to Jersey, passengers were equally spread across business and leisure.


Noise Action Plan Including Contours - Patrick Collins


Patrick Collins gave an update on the recent consultation which had been submitted in March 2014.  Four observations had been highlighted and the report was re-submitted in May.  The next step was to submit the report to the Secretary of State.


Mr Collins also showed a map of the noise contours and gave an explanation of how these were measured.  There had been a 5.3% drop in movements.


Airport Developments - Steve Thurston


Steve Thurston gave a presentation on Airport Developments.


In 2014 there were to be £4.4m of developments which included:


Stand walkways: - The risk of trips and falls had been identified in some of the block paving, and repairs to this together with new paint making it easier for passengers to instantly recognise the routes had been undertaken.


Fire Training Rig: - This was to be replaced due to its age and condition and the rig would now be scalable to meet different aircraft types.  LPG was to be added to reduce kerosene use.


Approach Lighting Replacements: - was being undertaken to give additional electrical safety and improve maintainability.  Replacing masts with hinged ones and re-routing cables underground.


Departure Lounge: - Different style seating was to be installed and some carpeted areas together with additional capacity gained by moving check in areas back.


Airport Hotel Development: - The 1 acre ‘pig farm’ site on the edge of the airport gave good access to public transport and would enhance the Airport offer.  It would also create 40 new jobs.  This development would form part of the strategy to jointly develop Fords, The Airport and Riverside.  Consultation was underway with Eastleigh Borough Council, Hampshire Highways, Network Rail and the University.  A pre-application was to be submitted in July/August with a full application later in 2014. 


A Solar Farm: - a 20 acre site at the Airport had been identified and would be capable of generating 5mw of electricity.  Construction was proposed to start in quarter 4 of 2014 with completion in the first quarter of 2015.  This was still subject to confirmation of a connection by Scottish and Southern Electricity.


Members requested that the presentation be attached and circulated with the minutes. 



Airspace Consultation update - Iain McDermott Paine


Speaking about runway O2 approach from Southampton Iain McDermott Paine explained that the satellite beacon VOR belonging to NATS would be decommissioned in 2016, and therefore it was essential to find straight line line up, a system similar to satellite navigation.  Air space proposals would be proposed in May to January and analysis would take place in February and March and publicised in April.


Option A had been identified as the preferred approach.  A report was published in April and flight testing of procedures had taken place and gone to the CAA for approval.  The CAA would make the final decision and at that time a timescale would be identified. 


Airports Commission - Call for Evidence - Discussion Paper: Utilisation of the UK's Existing Airports Capacity


The deadline for a response to this paper was 25 July 2014.  At the National Conference individual airports had been encouraged to respond.  Better east west routes and enhanced transport links were required.  Discussion had also included whether APD could be relaxed for new routes. 


Mike Thornton stated he could see no EU movement to change APD.


Members agreed the Committee should make a response, suggested improved access to the east eg Brighton.  Passenger experience was the key. 


Farnborough Airspace Change proposal


TAG Farnborough were looking to formalise their airspace by creating a greater amount of controlled air space.  Parish Councils, The Winchester Air Group and local glider clubs had been consulted. 


Dave Ingram from Winchester City Council advised the Committee that Winchester residents had been consulted focussing on aircraft leaving the airport to the north of the A31 corridor.  Various pockets of airspace were required in controlled airspace.  Sectors had been identified as below 4000 feet, between 4000 and 7000 feet and heights above that. 


Aircraft leaving Farnborough would enter the Winchester District at 5000 feet.  The worst case scenario was 42 more movements a day between 0600 and 2200, most of these would be private aircraft.  The impact on the ground would depend on ambient noise levels.  The Department of Transport guidance was that aircraft flying at between 4000-7000 feet should avoid ground populated sites.  In excess of 7000 feet could fly over to save fuel.


Areas particularly affected would be Alresford and Ropley, and Winchester City Council had been given a seat on the TAG Consultative Committee. 


Mr Tice commented that Farnborough had picked up on a policy to route aircraft on a set departure route something Southampton doesn’t do.  Government policy was in his view that aircraft should be routed along set routes and yet he felt at Southampton they could go anywhere.  Iain McDermott Paine explained that Farnborough were establishing controlled airspace not making changes.  Noise preferred routings were required to go to consultation and were approved the Technical Working Group had looked at this.  Dr Smith Mr Tice’s Deputy showed a map where aircraft were routed over populated areas at 2000 feet.


Tony Wright of Eastleigh Borough Council confirmed the consultation on Farnborough Airspace and confirmed that Eastleigh Borough Council, Winchester City Council and the Airport had responded. 


Monitoring of the Flying Controls Agreement - Tony Wright pdf icon PDF 24 KB

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Tony Wright presented his report which summarised the statistics of operational activity at Southampton Airport for the January to April period of 2014 provided by Southampton Airport in accordance with the Flying Controls Agreement between the owners of the airport and the Borough Council. The report also compares the figures with those for the previous year.


The summary of airport operational activity for the January to April period of 2014 was noted.


Routings over Winchester - WCC/WAG pdf icon PDF 105 KB


Dr Smith of the Winchester Air Group requested he be permitted to present a paper.  The Chairman advised that it was not usually permitted for the deputy to present when the member was in attendance, but on this occasion he was prepared to make an exception.


Dr Smith’s paper is attached to these minutes. 


The Committee acknowledged Dr Smith’s views but did not accept or debate  them.  It was agreed to refer this matter to the Technical Working Group.


Technical Working Group feedback pdf icon PDF 416 KB


Iain McDermott Paine presented the minutes of the last Technical Working Group and commented that the Boeing 717 was being used on the route to Palma, the Dash Q400 was also taking a high number of flights.  Following questions from Mr Tice, Mr McDermott Paine agreed to talk through the findings with him.


Mr Tice expressed the view that it would have been better to include the Winchester Loop in the TAG proposal but Mr McDermott Paine explained this was a totally separate consultation.


Feedback from UKACCS Conference June 2014 - Richard Ward/David Airey


David Airey who had attended the National Conference reported back to the Committee.  He conveyed the good wishes of the conference to Tony and Sylvia Balcombe which the Chair agreed to pass on.


There had been an airside tour of Gatwick for delegates of the conference which culminated in a demonstration of the very latest, very high tech equipment by the Gatwick Fire Service.


The business side of the conference had covered:

·  Airports Commission Interim report – the use of existing airport capacity being a keenly discussed item.

·  Regional services at London’s airports – the DfT was due to consult on State Aid Guidance this Summer.  Regional connectivity was a major concern for many airports, especially those that have traditionally had direct links to Gatwick and Heathrow.

·  The CAA’s Future Airspace Strategy

·  New DfT Guidance for Airport Consultative Committees.  Amongst issued discussed were managing the size of ACCs, support for the Code of Conduct, whether or not to hold the meetings in public, public participation, independence of the committees, the passenger experience and the way passenger interests were considered.  The Hon Secretary and Councillor Airey had one or two suggestions to make which they intended to discuss with the Chair before developing them and bringing them forward for the full Committee to discuss.  In particular, as examples these would be about engaging the travel trade and having a greater input from businesses, the passenger experience and getting an understanding of complaints (other than noise and not becoming an arbiter in any way. 

·  The decision to cease membership of Durham Tees Valley, its numbers having fallen below the threshold for membership.


Next year Manchester would be hosting the event. 


Date and time of next meeting

Friday 17 October 2014 Venue: The Airport


The Chair thanked Mike Thornton MP for attending the meeting.


The next meeting would be held at the Airport at 2pm on Friday 17 October 2014.